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If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
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I am rather new to this topic and have a lot of questions.  My first question is how did Adam sin if the original sin was an act of illicit union between Eve and Lucifer?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Rebecca Jan 27, 2016.

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Rebecca replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"I too am new. Stayed up late reading this discussion. Very much liked it. Even have to confess that there may have been a few gems in the long-winded gentleman's responses. As a 'hybread' Jew who believes in my messiah, and whose…"
Jan 27, 2016
Heidi Angel replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"Rann, based on some research I have done, I am going to say, I tend to agree with you here. Now, an interesting component as to why I tend to agree with you is that, the elite have, in fact, a practice that is referred to as their own so-called…"
Jan 18, 2016
Heidi Angel replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"Thank you for your response. I am glad to see you also see a connection there. I really don't know where I was going with my comment but it seems somehow pivotal that the experience in the garden, is going to be a repeat for humanity…"
Jan 18, 2016
Heidi Angel replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"Sure. I am sending you a pm."
Jan 18, 2016
FallenAngels.TV replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"I can see this as being part of the deception as the elite are seeking longevity, immortality, and a return to their original bright nature, first estate without judgment, condemnation, or certain punishment for the actions, behaviors, deeds, they…"
Jan 17, 2016
FallenAngels.TV replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"I do not do blogtalk shows anymore.  You have to catch me on either Revolution Radio @ www.freedomslips.com on Wednesday nights 8-10 pm Eastern or Saturday's 6-8 pm eastern on www.truthfrequencyradio.com.  Both have chat rooms for…"
Jan 17, 2016
FallenAngels.TV replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"While I agree with your comments I believe that Adam eating the fruit resulted in the birth of Abel and that Eve's beguilement resulted in the birth of Cain. As cited by this passage from the Targums: Genesis 4:1IV. And Adam knew Hava his wife,…"
Jan 17, 2016
FallenAngels.TV replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"Heidi would you mind if I added this information to Lucifer - Father of Cain II which I will publish sometime maybe this year?  I would be glad to cite your work."
Jan 17, 2016
Meshelemiah replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"I agree with most of your assessment and wanted to add this: Cain as you state, I agree was not of Adam. Given he was a product of ignorance, ignorance being darkness, darkness being death; I theorize that what he brought to YHWH as an…"
Jan 17, 2016
FallenAngels.TV replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"Fantastic post... let me add what I followed up the Kolbrin bit in my 4th book Lucifer - Father of Cain with so that you can see that I indeed concur with your assessment. Also one must know that I teach that eating of this fruit caused them to lose…"
Jan 16, 2016
Heidi Angel replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"Just adding a final bit of information on what I previously wrote about the Mandrake possibly being the "forbidden fruit" that Adam and Eve partook of: A translation of the word "Drake" actually mean "dragon". So…"
Jan 14, 2016
Heidi Angel replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"Zen, This part you referenced from the Kolbrin Bible: "The Moonmother gave him two apples containing a vile substance which they had drawn through theirstalks; this Lewid gave to Maeva who then became helpless in his hands.They met again after…"
Jan 12, 2016
Heidi Angel replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"Yes, I definitely look forward to hearing Zen's opinion on this and perhaps his research can confirm some things. All the best to you as well Rann! Heidi"
Jan 12, 2016
Heidi Angel replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"Hello Rann, thank you most kindly for your response :) Ya know, as I was reading thru this thread, the word "mandrakes" just came into my mind. So as a result of this, I'll say, it could have been divine inspiration ( I think) that…"
Jan 12, 2016
FallenAngels.TV replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"we can reopen the thread, other questions.  I'll answer everyone in 2 days..."
Jan 12, 2016
Heidi Angel replied to Judith Ellen Kunz's discussion If Eve sinned by having sex with Lucifer, how did Adam become involved in the sin?
"I know this thread has been around for a few years, but as I was reading thru it, I too have come to the conclusion that Eve, and then Adam, partook of some "forbidden" fruit....and that it was actually a "fruit' of some kind…"
Jan 11, 2016

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where were you born and where do you live now?
I was born and live now in the Bronx, New York City.
How did you hear or learn about FallenAngels.TV?
From investigating the work of Dr. Joye Jeffries Pugh
About Me:
I am 57 years old. One of my main interests is investigating the true history of the world and that includes conspiracy. Years ago, I pursued acting and singing. I am currently unemployed and seeking a job.
Website:
http://no website
what religion, guiding principle, or idea gives you direction in life and fulfills your purpose in being?
Roman Catholicism
do you know that Yahshuah - Jesus Christ is the Son of God?
Yes.
what do you think life is all about?
The primary reason I think we are here is to make the ultimate choice--either for God or for self (Satan).
why do you think hell was created?
I have read that the worst pain of hell is the self-chosen separation from God. I do not believe in a God who would torture even the damned but perhaps these fallen angels created the torments of hell because of their own sinful, twisted existence.
do you believe that group of fallen Angels descended to the earth and mated with the daughters of men?
I am open to the possibility that this is true.
do you believe that the results of that mating resulted in the creation of a race of Giants?
Again, I am open to the possibility. I seek further knowledge about it.
who do you think created all the ancient structures spread out all over the planet?
I don't know.
do you think that Cain was the child of Adam or a child of the devil?
I believe he could be a child of Satan but I want more info.
what do you think the fruit was that Eve ate in paradise?
Forbidden sex.
do you believe in aliens or ancient astronaut? If so, do you believe they are benevolent or evil?
If they exist, I think they are fallen angels--definitely not benevolent to man in the long run.
do you believe that we are at the end of days?
Yes.
do you read the Bible or any other sacred Scriptures regularly?
Sadly, no. I must improve on this.

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